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Oct 10 2008

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Court says Mormonism is not Protestant

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[NWAnews]

A Benton County father found in contempt for violating a custody agreement that barred him from promoting Mormonism to his two sons lost his appeal at the Arkansas Court of Appeals on Wednesday. Joel Mark Rownak and Lisa Monette Rownak agreed in their 2005 divorce to raise their children “in the Protestant faith.” The decree bars them from promoting another religion without the other’s consent.

In May 2007, Benton County Circuit Judge John R. Scott found Joel Rownak in contempt of that decree based on evidence that Rownak had “candidly acknowledged” promoting the Mormon faith to his sons.

Rownak led his sons in Scripture reading and daily prayer, involved one son in Boy Scouts at a local Mormon church and had one son baptized at the church, according to an opinion written by Judge Sam Bird and agreed to by Judges John Robbins and Robert J. Gladwin.

Rownak argued the contempt finding violated his First Amendment rights, particularly the establishment clause that prohibits the state from discriminating against religion. Bird wrote that the decree was a valid contract between parties and didn’t violate Rownak’s constitutional rights. He noted that Joel Rownak had requested the language to be included in the decree.

Joel Rownak testified that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints wasn’t a Protestant faith, and the court also considered evidence to that effect from the church’s Web site.

Read more here.

[From me]

Well, I’ve known for some time that they aren’t Protestant.  The Mormons are nice people but they are very deceitful when it comes to their beliefs.  They want to lead people to believe they are just another denomination. But they are a false religion that was developed from a wild imagination of a liar.

What do you think?

[HT] Preston Condra 

 

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Aug 05 2008

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My visit to see Bill the Mormon

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We went into Gatlinburg today so the students could go shopping. We were too close for me not to try to see my good friend Bill the Mormon.  Unfortunately he was not there.  But here is a picture of his office.

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Jun 19 2008

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He said what?

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If you don’t want to watch then read here:

WALLACE: And what about Mitt Romney? And I’ve got to ask you the question, because it is a question whether it should be or not in this campaign, is a Mormon a true Christian?

OSTEEN: Well, in my mind they are. Mitt Romney has said that he believes in Christ as his savior, and that’s what I believe, so, you know, I’m not the one to judge the little details of it. So I believe they are.

And so, you know, Mitt Romney seems like a man of character and integrity to me, and I don’t think he would — anything would stop me from voting for him if that’s what I felt like.

WALLACE: So, for instance, when people start talking about Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, and the golden tablets in upstate New York, and God assumes the shape of a man, do you not get hung up in those theological issues?

OSTEEN: I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them. And you know, I just try to let God be the judge of that. I mean, I don’t know.

I certainly can’t say that I agree with everything that I’ve heard about it, but from what I’ve heard from Mitt, when he says that Christ is his savior, to me that’s a common bond.

- Source: FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace, Dec. 23, 2007

[From me]

Oh my.

How did I miss this one?  He said he hasn’t studied Mormonism.  Joel, then don’t say anything!  I’m sorry, but preach Jesus or don’t preach at all.  I get more cynical everyday.  Does the Bible matter anymore?  Or if you can put people in the pews is that what matters?  I love your positive outlook on life.  I think God can use you but take a stand!

What do you think?

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Jun 18 2008

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Ode to Bill the Mormon…

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Jun 18 2008

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How can you be a Christian if you believe Lucifer was Jesus brother?

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Our friend Bill the Mormon (from Gatlinburg, TN) is an expert at the cut and paste technique on this blog. One of the Mormon beliefs that makes absolutely no sense to me is that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers. Yes, you read that right–Mormons believe that Jesus was the brother of Satan.  Before you think I made this up read this from their own official website:

 

Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15D&C 93:21.)

How could two such great spirits become so totally opposite? The answer lies in the principle of agency, which has existed from all eternity. (See D&C 93:30–31.) Of Lucifer, the scripture says that because of rebellion “he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies.” (Moses 4:4.) Note that he was not created evil, but became Satan by his own choice.

When our Father in Heaven presented his plan of salvation, Jesus sustained the plan and his part in it, giving the glory to God, to whom it properly belonged. Lucifer, on the other hand, sought power, honor, and glory only for himself. (See Isa. 14:13–14Moses 4:1–2.) When his modification of the Father’s plan was rejected, he rebelled against God and was subsequently cast out of heaven with those who had sided with him. (See Rev. 12:7–9D&C 29:36–37.)

That brothers would make dramatically different choices is not unusual. It has happened time and again, as the scriptures attest: Cain chose to serve Satan; Abel chose to serve God. (See Moses 5:16–18.) Esau “despised his birthright”; Jacob wanted to honor it. (Gen. 25:29–34.) Joseph’s brothers sought to kill him; he sought to preserve them. (Gen. 37:12–24Gen. 45:3–11.)

It is ironic that the agency with which Lucifer rebelled is the very gift he tried to take from man. His proposal was that all be forced back into God’s presence. (See Moses 4:1, 3.) But the principle of agency is fundamental to the existence and progression of intelligent beings: as we make wise choices, we grow in light and truth. On the other hand, wrong choices—such as the one Satan made—stop progress and can even deny us blessings that we already have. (See D&C 93:30–36.)

In order for us to progress, therefore, we must have the opportunity to choose good or evil. Interestingly, Satan and his angels—those who opposed agency—have become that opposition. As the prophet Lehi taught, “Men are free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.” (2 Ne. 2:27.)

Although the Father has allowed Satan and his angels to tempt mankind, he has given each of us the ability to rise above temptation. (See 1 Cor. 10:13.) He has also given us the great gift of the Atonement.

When the Lord placed enmity between Eve’s children and the devil, Satan was told that he would bruise the heel of Eve’s seed, but her seed would bruise his head. (See Moses 4:21.) President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that “the ‘God of peace,’ who according to the scriptures is to bruise Satan, is Jesus Christ.” (Answers to Gospel Questions, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1957, 1:3.) Satan would bruise the Savior’s heel by leading men to crucify Him. But through his death and resurrection, Christ overcame death for all of us; and through his atonement, he offers each of us a way to escape the eternal ramifications of sin. Thus, Satan’s machinations have been frustrated and eventually he will be judged, bound, and cast into hell forever. (See Rev. 20:1–10D&C 29:26–29.)

In Hebrew, the word bruise means “to crush or grind.” Therefore, the very heel that was bruised will crush Satan and will help us overcome the world and return to our Father. As we use our agency to choose good over evil, the atonement of Christ prepares the way for us to return to our Father in Heaven.

We can only imagine the sorrow of our Heavenly Father as he watched a loved son incite and lead a rebellion and lose his opportunity for exaltation. But we can also imagine the Father’s love and rejoicing as he welcomed back the beloved son who had valiantly and perfectly fought the battles of life and brought about the great Atonement through his suffering and death.

Huh? How can a group claim to be Christians when they teach such heresy?  No where in the Bible does it even hint that Satan was a deity.  The Bible makes it clear that Jesus is God and was around from the beginning.  It also never mentions that Lucifer was Jesus brother.  The Bible says Lucifer was an angel that rebelled but that is a far cry from being the son of God!  Do realize how preposterous that is?

Now the Mormons will try to tell you that Doctrine and Covenants, The Pearl of Great Price and the Book of Mormon are all considered “Scripture” according to the Latter Day Saints.  In fact, they believe those books are more important than the Bible.  But those books were written less than 200 years ago.  The Bible is living and active.  Jesus Himself was the Word and dwelt among us according to the book of John.  

Look, people can believe what ever they want.  That is the right of every American.  But why do the Mormons insist on being called Christians when they don’t teach the basic doctrines of Christianity?  Just admit that you are not Christians.  Just be happy with who you are–Mormons.  Don’t try to convince people that the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus because it is not.  It is a book written by a delusional man named Joseph Smith.  It was not inspired by the Holy Spirit like the real Bible.  So how cant you be a Christian faith if you teach that Lucifer was the brother of Jesus?

 

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