Jan 06 2009
Pat Robertson: God says U.S. will accept socialism
Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, announced at his staff’s annual prayer retreat that God told him Americans would embrace socialism in 2009 “in order to relieve their pain” and that the economy would rebound under an Obama administration.
“The Lord said the economy of your nation will recover,” Robertson told a group assembled at Founders Inn on the campus of Regent University in Virginia Beach, Va., a university Robertson founded.
Robertson said God also declared, “The steps taken will lead to a dramatic increase in the power of government. The people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the ’30s.”
In a follow-up interview he granted to Terry Meeuwsen, his co-host on CBN’s The 700 Club, Robertson added, “It will be the largest transfer of power to Washington since the ’30s. But people are willing to accept it because the pain has been so bad.”
In a CBN-produced video clip containing both the predictions and the interview, Meeuwsen points out that Robertson has been right on his predictions before. At the beginning of 2008, for example, Robertson correctly predicted the year would include a world-wide recession, a stock market crash, oil hitting $150 (it hit $147) per barrel, and gold topping $1000 an ounce, which it did in March 2008.
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[From me]
How are Pat’s predictions any better than Jean Dixon? Is this not divination? Why has God talked to Pat and not you or me? Isn’t the Bible enough?
What do you think?
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Americans have already embraced socialism. His comment was like that of a fortune teller stating the obvious.
I’m with Jim.
If Pat had said this before FDR took office, I would buy it.
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Kevin…you are off track here. Call Pat up. Ask him to predict when your NC home will sell! Use his gift, don’t mock it.
Pat was relevant maybe at one time, but I wish he would step aside, for IMHO he is a source of mockery and embarassment for the evangelical community.
As I have said many times over the years on my blog, if this were the Christian country that Pat Robertson has insisted we become, it would have been scripturally mandated that we would have to drag Pat outside the Virginia Beach city limits and stone him to death for making so many false prophecies.
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“You will know them by their fruit.” Well….can’t get much “fruitier” than Mr. Robertson.
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In view of Robertson’s record of failed predictions, he might want to reconsider a message he received from Satan in the early years of his evangelical career. Robertson maintains that while at a retreat in Canada, he was lying on a cot and heard Satan say, “Jesus is just playing you for a sucker, Robertson.”
Although Robertson opposed the devil at the time, a strong case can made that Satan’s message turned out to be more accurate than those from the Lord.
Robertson’s incorrect prophecies cause him to flunk his own Bible’s test for determining whether someone is receiving messages from God. The book teaches: “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not
be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:22)
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In Christ
Andrew
Bro Pat needs to retire, IMHO.
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I place more faith in the predictions of the National Enquirer than Pat Robertson.
The Bible is sufficient for me.
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The real question, Kevin, is:
Does God still speak to people today?
YES, He does!
He has spoken clearly to me, on several occasions….
But He also speaks through His Word, primarily.
Two great books that I would recommend, by Dr Jack Deere:
Surprised by the Power of the Spirit, and Surprised by the Voice of God.
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God primarily speaks through his word. He does not speak through Pat Robertson, unless Pat is reading the Bible to you.
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He is probably right about the U.S. accepting socialism, but only in a “shooting fish in a barrel” sense. The average voter is wildly uninformed and has no sense of history or the logical consequences of various economic philosophies.
Neil,
While I am NO fan of Pat Robertson, how do YOU know that God doesn’t speak through Pat Robertson to someone else? Are you God..
I think not.
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A-hem…
“When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken…
Pat Robertson is too full of himself, filling his wallet . . .
Having seen your shambles of a so-called “health system”, I hope that this is one prophecy for which we will not have to stone the prophet!
But seriously, what does he mean by “socialism”? The term has so many definitions that any change under Obama’s administration could be construed “socialistic”.
Dozer, as one who had a personal interest in prophecy, what time frame is allowed to determine if a prophecy is genuine or not?
Some prophecies were given that were fulfilled in short order. Some prophecies are over a thousand years old and are still yet to be fulfilled.
If you are referring to the purple glass is, I don’t know. I only know what I was given to tell you. Also you know something, I will be the first to say if I am wrong, I am wrong and a false prophet. But my hope endures.
In Christ
Andrew
Dozer, Re: those thousand year old prophecies- ( to which are you referring?) how long does one have to wait? And if, after several millennia, they turn out to be wrong, well, how does one stone false prophets when they’re long dead and gone? How many millennia does it take to work out that they were wrong, and who determines the error?
I don’t think you’re a false prophet- I think you mistook the usual chatter that goes on inside all human heads for something you wanted desperately. You wanted to prove something to me, in the spirit of altruism. That’s why I ask about the time frame. I still have no idea what purple glass means or what relevance it could possibly have to my life.
I would have thought that by now, “God” would have seen fit to materialise it for me, or at least to give me some better directions than to leave me scratching my head about it for all these long months.
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Francoise,
If you are scratching your head obviously that means you are thinking about it. One might wonder why this “word of prophecy” is on your mind at all all these long months.
My Southern Baptist Friends on this site may think that prophecy went the way of the dodo, but it is a gift that I believe in and have seen in operation today. Which makes sense to me in that God is the same yesterday today and forever..
I don’t know when you will see the purple glass, but I do believe the relevance is unmistakable. In Genesis 12:3, the first thing God (the guy you do not believe exists, or if He does, isn’t very nice.) told Abraham…
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I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
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The most unifying principle of the entire word of God is that God has always been evangelistic. He moves so the peoples of the earth will know HIM and His love, will be blessed by HIM and that we will reciprocate that love and bless HIM as well as others.
That is God’s primary motive for everything. Check it out and see how many times Nations, Peoples, etc…in the bible, then see what context it is most often mentioned in the bible. He does everything, even encouraging and strengthening His people for the Display of HIS splendor.
So the glass is so you will know HIM…that HE loves YOU, SPECIFICALLY YOU….it’s a word for you. That is the relevance of the glass.
In Christ
Andrew
Well, I rest my case. God curses people who upset him- ergo is not very nice
He can whisper about purple glass into people’s ears, but apparently is completely helpless or totally indifferent when tsunamis carry off defenceless children, or when nutcases crash planes into the WTC.
I’m not hanging out and holding my breath for that glass. “Scratching my head” is our idiom to mean that we have no idea what it means, not that it worries us. I just thought it amusing that you mentioned the fate of the false prophets.
I think God was very HELPFUL when the tsunami hit SE Asia..
I read about this right after it happened but a group of Christians were all being persecuted by the leadership of their Muslim village. To celebrate Christmas…they all left town to meet on top of a mountain for a few days. THEY all were saved alive, and when they returned home, they were able to help the remaining villagers to rebuild their lives. Many of the remaining villagers comitted their lives to Jesus.
From a website from a missionary on the ground near Bandeh Aceh when the tsunami occurred.
Snopes, and other sites which consider themselves the last word on reports from around the world, have called the report false– urban legend. They all mock at the idea that God would single out Bible believers with his favor. I never cease to be amazed at the way filthy sex perverts on the web can dip into the canon of the Word of God just enough to slap God’s people in the face and spit in God’s face. . .
Here is the report I believe:
We know that 80% of the town of Meulaboh in Aceh was destroyed by the Tsunami waves and 80% of the people also died. This is one of the towns that was hit the hardest.
But there is a fantastic testimony from Meulaboh. In that town are about 400 Christians. They wanted to celebrate Christmas on December 25th but were not allowed to do so by the Muslims of Meulaboh. They were told if they wanted to celebrate Christmas they needed to go outside the city of Meulaboh on a high hill and there celebrate Christmas. Because the Christians desired to celebrate Christmas the 400 believers left the city on December 25th and after they celebrated Christmas they stayed overnight on the hill.
As we all know the morning of December 26 there was the earthquake followed by the Tsunami waves destroying most of the city of Meulaboh and thousands were killed. The 400 believers were on the mountain and were all saved from destruction. Now the Muslims of Meulaboh are saying that the God of the Christians punished us for forbidding the Christians from celebrating Christmas in the city. Others are questioning why so many Muslims died while not even one of the Christians died there.
Had the Christians insisted on their rights to celebrate Christmas in the city, they would have all died. But because they humbled themselves and followed the advice of the Muslims they all were spared destruction and can now testify of God’s marvelous protection. This is a testimony of the grace of God and the fact that as believers we have no rights in the world. Our right is come before God and commit our lives to Him.
Our right is kneeling down before the Lord almighty and commit our ways to Him. He is our Father and is very capable to care for His children. Praise the Name of the Lord.
So why the partiality? Why save some and leave helpless children to die? Are you aware of the Sri Lankan orphanage in which every child died in that terrible tsunami of 2004? Not only were they orphans, but blind mutes as well. Can you imagine the horror of their deaths? Unable to see what was happening, unable to cry out for help….it doesn’t bear thinking about. God didn’t seem to keen to help them, did he?
“While I am NO fan of Pat Robertson, how do YOU know that God doesn’t speak through Pat Robertson to someone else? Are you God..
I think not.”
Hi Phil, thanks for asking. If God spoke through Pat then Pat would be right. But he has been wrong many times even though he claimed the messages came from God.
God could speak to or through people, but it is not normative. Again, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim and Robertson has no credibility left with me.
Deuteronomy 18:21-22 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
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