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	<title>Comments on: Leading Evangelicals say Palin&#8217;s Daughter Not an Issue</title>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10150</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of taking talking points from Kos and DU like others, Id rather look at the polls of the people she currently governs.  80% approval rate...with 64% of Alaskans rating her as good to excellent.  Does anybody have that in the country other than her?

However, in Alaska, the 44-year old Governor and hockey mom earns good or excellent ratings from 64% of voters statewide. Just 14% say she is doing a poor job. In a state whose senior Republican Senator has been indicted for ethical violations, 84% say Palin is at least as ethical as most politicians. Most (51%) say she’s more ethical than her peers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of taking talking points from Kos and DU like others, Id rather look at the polls of the people she currently governs.  80% approval rate&#8230;with 64% of Alaskans rating her as good to excellent.  Does anybody have that in the country other than her?</p>
<p>However, in Alaska, the 44-year old Governor and hockey mom earns good or excellent ratings from 64% of voters statewide. Just 14% say she is doing a poor job. In a state whose senior Republican Senator has been indicted for ethical violations, 84% say Palin is at least as ethical as most politicians. Most (51%) say she’s more ethical than her peers</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Osipov</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10143</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Osipov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"People don’t quit jobs or advancing their careers just because their children are in need."

But perhaps they should!  Yes, this kind of thing happens in the best of families - where there's a will, there's a way.  In the first place, a mother's job is much different than a father's.  Whether she has a job outside the home or not, she should always be available to her children.  My husband died when I was 31 years old - I had to be both mother and father.  Not an easy task!  Her pregnant daughter needs her mother right now, not to be in the spotlight.  Yes, conservatives would be preaching to all of us on sex education right now.  Young adults need to know ALL the options.  Rushing into a marriage just because of a pregnancy is never a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People don’t quit jobs or advancing their careers just because their children are in need.&#8221;</p>
<p>But perhaps they should!  Yes, this kind of thing happens in the best of families - where there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way.  In the first place, a mother&#8217;s job is much different than a father&#8217;s.  Whether she has a job outside the home or not, she should always be available to her children.  My husband died when I was 31 years old - I had to be both mother and father.  Not an easy task!  Her pregnant daughter needs her mother right now, not to be in the spotlight.  Yes, conservatives would be preaching to all of us on sex education right now.  Young adults need to know ALL the options.  Rushing into a marriage just because of a pregnancy is never a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Steve Heartsill</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Steve Heartsill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin...I know all of this political stuff is important...but, what I really want to know is how is such a bama fan like you handling all the grief you must be getting from carolina folks after the whipping our team put on their team?

Roll Tide Roll!

&lt;em&gt;M. Steve Heartsill's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://steveheartsill.blogspot.com/2008/09/wednesdays-question-of-day.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Wednesday's Question of the Day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin&#8230;I know all of this political stuff is important&#8230;but, what I really want to know is how is such a bama fan like you handling all the grief you must be getting from carolina folks after the whipping our team put on their team?</p>
<p>Roll Tide Roll!</p>
<p><em>M. Steve Heartsill&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://steveheartsill.blogspot.com/2008/09/wednesdays-question-of-day.html' rel="nofollow">Wednesday&#8217;s Question of the Day</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Janna</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10139</link>
		<dc:creator>Janna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain had a few reject is offer for being the VP.  That is something that has given me pause.
I totally agree with kevin, davidbmsc, and TIA that if it were with the democrats then the right wing would be handling it so differerently.  We see that right now with them left.  They aren't wanting choice, they want the abortion.  They are questioning the parenting values.  They are speaking about how a woman needs to be with her children!  I'm just shaking my head at all this role reversal.
Hugh, she shouldn't have to give up her career for her family.  Bush didn't.  He let his drunken daughters goof around throughout his first term.  She isn't a single mother, so there is a parent more available.  People don't quit jobs or advancing their careers just because their children are in need.  This is yet another one of those hypocritical things of this election.  People wouldn't be saying B. Clinton, Bush, McCain, or Obama needed to say “it’s an honor but my family comes first and I’m needed at home.” 
I'm really hoping that this election isn't screwed up because of too much hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain had a few reject is offer for being the VP.  That is something that has given me pause.<br />
I totally agree with kevin, davidbmsc, and TIA that if it were with the democrats then the right wing would be handling it so differerently.  We see that right now with them left.  They aren&#8217;t wanting choice, they want the abortion.  They are questioning the parenting values.  They are speaking about how a woman needs to be with her children!  I&#8217;m just shaking my head at all this role reversal.<br />
Hugh, she shouldn&#8217;t have to give up her career for her family.  Bush didn&#8217;t.  He let his drunken daughters goof around throughout his first term.  She isn&#8217;t a single mother, so there is a parent more available.  People don&#8217;t quit jobs or advancing their careers just because their children are in need.  This is yet another one of those hypocritical things of this election.  People wouldn&#8217;t be saying B. Clinton, Bush, McCain, or Obama needed to say “it’s an honor but my family comes first and I’m needed at home.”<br />
I&#8217;m really hoping that this election isn&#8217;t screwed up because of too much hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas in Africa</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10138</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas in Africa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They absolutely would not be so soft on Obama's children!  If the situation were reversed, I can almost guarantee we'd be hearing commentary about how support for comprehensive sex education just leads to teenagers having sex, and on and on and on and on.  

I'm glad that Obama said to keep children out of it, too.  But I do think the pick raises questions about McCain's judgment in the vetting process, especially concerning some of the financial dealings we're starting to learn about.

&lt;em&gt;Texas in Africa's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://texasinafrica.blogspot.com/2008/09/st-paul-welcome.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;a st. paul welcome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They absolutely would not be so soft on Obama&#8217;s children!  If the situation were reversed, I can almost guarantee we&#8217;d be hearing commentary about how support for comprehensive sex education just leads to teenagers having sex, and on and on and on and on.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that Obama said to keep children out of it, too.  But I do think the pick raises questions about McCain&#8217;s judgment in the vetting process, especially concerning some of the financial dealings we&#8217;re starting to learn about.</p>
<p><em>Texas in Africa&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://texasinafrica.blogspot.com/2008/09/st-paul-welcome.html' rel="nofollow">a st. paul welcome</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't hardly know what to think on it. 

I'd like to think the kids could get left out.  But the campaign has been more than happy to drag her adult son going to Iraq into the election as an example of her patriotism and her baby son as an example of her pro-lifeness.  She also wants abstinence education as a matter of public policy, but then she has pregnant teenager?  If abstinence education doesn't work with her kid, how is Joe Atheist supposed to understand that?  

The other problem I have is with what appears to be a shotgun wedding in the making.  I'm not sure this is a good idea for the baby.  It's a tough situation for them and I wish for the girl that it didn't have to go on in the national spotlight.  

But with so much going on in her family, why does Mrs. Palin chose her career first?  Couldn't she have said, "it's an honor but my family comes first and I'm needed at home."  She chose to get involved in a national campaign and a super bright spotlight.  Why did McCain put her in this awful position and ask her to be his VP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hardly know what to think on it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think the kids could get left out.  But the campaign has been more than happy to drag her adult son going to Iraq into the election as an example of her patriotism and her baby son as an example of her pro-lifeness.  She also wants abstinence education as a matter of public policy, but then she has pregnant teenager?  If abstinence education doesn&#8217;t work with her kid, how is Joe Atheist supposed to understand that?  </p>
<p>The other problem I have is with what appears to be a shotgun wedding in the making.  I&#8217;m not sure this is a good idea for the baby.  It&#8217;s a tough situation for them and I wish for the girl that it didn&#8217;t have to go on in the national spotlight.  </p>
<p>But with so much going on in her family, why does Mrs. Palin chose her career first?  Couldn&#8217;t she have said, &#8220;it&#8217;s an honor but my family comes first and I&#8217;m needed at home.&#8221;  She chose to get involved in a national campaign and a super bright spotlight.  Why did McCain put her in this awful position and ask her to be his VP?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Knight</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/09/03/leading-evangelicals-say-palins-daughter-not-an-issue/#comment-10136</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up 'til the past few days, I have been what could be termed a pretty serious admirer of Sarah Palin.

Now, I'm not very sure about that at all.  And it has nothing to do with her daughter getting pregnant.

It turns out that when she was mayor of Wasilla, Palin took a $6 million annual budget, and by the time she left to become governor she had driven the town $26 million in debt.  &lt;b&gt;How&lt;/b&gt; does &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; happen?!  I mean, the town I'm from has more than twice the population of Wasilla, but I don't think it's ever been that deep in the hole (and if y'all knew the kind of politicians this place seems to chronically elect you would seriously wonder why that hasn't happened yet).  Turns out that she wasted a lot of money on things the town didn't necessarily need, while also being extremely incompetent on urban planning.

Then there is how she ran for mayor of Wasilla in the first place.  That small town had non-partisan and traditionally friendly elections.  Palin campaigned on "wedge issues" like abortion.  Ummmm what does abortion have to do with small-town politics?  That's like a substitute teacher giving an honors history lesson in a high school woodworking class.

And then on closer look, her record as governor of Alaska isn't all that hot either.  It's rife with a lot of budget bungling and fiscal irresponsibility.  I've got nothing at all against Canada, but Palin &lt;b&gt;should&lt;/b&gt; have given the contract for the new pipeline to an American company.  And the so-called "bridge to nowhere" was something she had nothing to do with at all... except that she made sure that Alaska kept all that money instead of returning it to the federal government.

There are a &lt;b&gt;lot&lt;/b&gt; of things wrong now in my mind with the idea of this woman becoming Vice President, and her own family's predicament has nothing at all to do with it.  In the end this is about how well a person is as an administrator, an upholder of the rule of law, and as an example of civic virtue.  I'm still weighing judgment on Palin and the last two but as an executive, her record now appears more than a bit shoddy.

But hey, I'm not voting for either Obama or McCain anyway, so what do I know? :-)

&lt;em&gt;Chris Knight's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2008/09/viacom-v-knight-at-citizen-media-law.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Viacom v. Knight at the Citizen Media Law Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up &#8217;til the past few days, I have been what could be termed a pretty serious admirer of Sarah Palin.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not very sure about that at all.  And it has nothing to do with her daughter getting pregnant.</p>
<p>It turns out that when she was mayor of Wasilla, Palin took a $6 million annual budget, and by the time she left to become governor she had driven the town $26 million in debt.  <b>How</b> does <b>that</b> happen?!  I mean, the town I&#8217;m from has more than twice the population of Wasilla, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s ever been that deep in the hole (and if y&#8217;all knew the kind of politicians this place seems to chronically elect you would seriously wonder why that hasn&#8217;t happened yet).  Turns out that she wasted a lot of money on things the town didn&#8217;t necessarily need, while also being extremely incompetent on urban planning.</p>
<p>Then there is how she ran for mayor of Wasilla in the first place.  That small town had non-partisan and traditionally friendly elections.  Palin campaigned on &#8220;wedge issues&#8221; like abortion.  Ummmm what does abortion have to do with small-town politics?  That&#8217;s like a substitute teacher giving an honors history lesson in a high school woodworking class.</p>
<p>And then on closer look, her record as governor of Alaska isn&#8217;t all that hot either.  It&#8217;s rife with a lot of budget bungling and fiscal irresponsibility.  I&#8217;ve got nothing at all against Canada, but Palin <b>should</b> have given the contract for the new pipeline to an American company.  And the so-called &#8220;bridge to nowhere&#8221; was something she had nothing to do with at all&#8230; except that she made sure that Alaska kept all that money instead of returning it to the federal government.</p>
<p>There are a <b>lot</b> of things wrong now in my mind with the idea of this woman becoming Vice President, and her own family&#8217;s predicament has nothing at all to do with it.  In the end this is about how well a person is as an administrator, an upholder of the rule of law, and as an example of civic virtue.  I&#8217;m still weighing judgment on Palin and the last two but as an executive, her record now appears more than a bit shoddy.</p>
<p>But hey, I&#8217;m not voting for either Obama or McCain anyway, so what do I know? <img src='http://kevinbussey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<em>Chris Knight&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2008/09/viacom-v-knight-at-citizen-media-law.html' rel="nofollow">Viacom v. Knight at the Citizen Media Law Project</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: davidbmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidbmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it were obama's daughter or had been chelsea clinton they would have said what horrible parents they were. thats what i hate about politics. intellectual inconsistency.

&lt;em&gt;davidbmc's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://voyageministries.blogspot.com/2008/09/credit-where-its-due-give-now.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Credit Where It's Due (Give Now)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it were obama&#8217;s daughter or had been chelsea clinton they would have said what horrible parents they were. thats what i hate about politics. intellectual inconsistency.</p>
<p><em>davidbmc&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://voyageministries.blogspot.com/2008/09/credit-where-its-due-give-now.html' rel="nofollow">Credit Where It&#8217;s Due (Give Now)</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm in 100% agreement.  I was thinking this as well.  I like to think that this wouldn't matter regardless of party.  I don't care about this just like I don't care that Clinton smoked weed when he was young.  Unless these private issue will effect policy stances, then it shouldn't be considered.

&lt;em&gt;Michael's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://searchingforgodajourney.blogspot.com/2008/09/hello-god.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Hello?  God?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in 100% agreement.  I was thinking this as well.  I like to think that this wouldn&#8217;t matter regardless of party.  I don&#8217;t care about this just like I don&#8217;t care that Clinton smoked weed when he was young.  Unless these private issue will effect policy stances, then it shouldn&#8217;t be considered.</p>
<p><em>Michael&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://searchingforgodajourney.blogspot.com/2008/09/hello-god.html' rel="nofollow">Hello?  God?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Palins aren't hypocritical at all, as some have suggested.  Hypocrisy would be encouraging her to have the living human being destroyed to avoid the "punishment." 

But I think that conseratives don't attack liberals over what their kids do, at least not in any broad way at all.  I think Al Gore's kids messed up, for example, and other than hearing a news report I've never heard about it again.

&lt;em&gt;Neil's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/evangelism-experiences-8/' rel="nofollow"&gt;Evangelism experiences 8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Palins aren&#8217;t hypocritical at all, as some have suggested.  Hypocrisy would be encouraging her to have the living human being destroyed to avoid the &#8220;punishment.&#8221; </p>
<p>But I think that conseratives don&#8217;t attack liberals over what their kids do, at least not in any broad way at all.  I think Al Gore&#8217;s kids messed up, for example, and other than hearing a news report I&#8217;ve never heard about it again.</p>
<p><em>Neil&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/evangelism-experiences-8/' rel="nofollow">Evangelism experiences 8</a></em></p>
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