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	<title>Comments on: Camp Atheist?</title>
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		<title>By: AskAnAtheist.ort</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/05/31/camp-atheist/#comment-7827</link>
		<dc:creator>AskAnAtheist.ort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Janna,&lt;/strong&gt;

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If a camp is a good camp then a camper should feel free to be able to think what they want to think. I almost even feel that about religious camps, cause we should love people where they are at.
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Do you mean that Christians should not proselytize so that people can think the way they want, or do you mean that 'loving people where they are at' is a good tactic to gain their trust so that you can have a better shot at changing their mind later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Janna,</strong></p>
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If a camp is a good camp then a camper should feel free to be able to think what they want to think. I almost even feel that about religious camps, cause we should love people where they are at.
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<p>Do you mean that Christians should not proselytize so that people can think the way they want, or do you mean that &#8216;loving people where they are at&#8217; is a good tactic to gain their trust so that you can have a better shot at changing their mind later?</p>
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		<title>By: Janna</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/05/31/camp-atheist/#comment-7815</link>
		<dc:creator>Janna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you listen to their camp song?  It sounds like any other camp song pretty much.  When you hear them sing the song, you don't hear anything about the camp being anti-religion...it is just camp.  There are a few older people at the camp to help instruct these campers.  They have a focus during meals times to learn about free thinkers.  Looks like a "friar" comes to their camp fires.  I didn't know if I could embed a youtube through comments, but here is a link to a documenty possibly about the camp right now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ7HwN6uKk
It is interesting to see the same phrase "camp quest" is used for many spiritual camps as well.   The scary thing I read underneath the video is the desire to bring the camp to texas.
If a camp is a good camp then a camper should feel free to be able to think what they want to think.  I almost even feel that about religious camps, cause we should love people where they are at.  For the child to have to go to a camp that teaches there is nothing just makes me sad.  It seems it would be better to go to a "Bug Juice" or interest/theme camp.

I'm sure they could still sing "I've got a daisy on my toe" and "Wishy Washy Woman."   Just no Taps at this camp!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you listen to their camp song?  It sounds like any other camp song pretty much.  When you hear them sing the song, you don&#8217;t hear anything about the camp being anti-religion&#8230;it is just camp.  There are a few older people at the camp to help instruct these campers.  They have a focus during meals times to learn about free thinkers.  Looks like a &#8220;friar&#8221; comes to their camp fires.  I didn&#8217;t know if I could embed a youtube through comments, but here is a link to a documenty possibly about the camp right now.<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ7HwN6uKk" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ7HwN6uKk</a><br />
It is interesting to see the same phrase &#8220;camp quest&#8221; is used for many spiritual camps as well.   The scary thing I read underneath the video is the desire to bring the camp to texas.<br />
If a camp is a good camp then a camper should feel free to be able to think what they want to think.  I almost even feel that about religious camps, cause we should love people where they are at.  For the child to have to go to a camp that teaches there is nothing just makes me sad.  It seems it would be better to go to a &#8220;Bug Juice&#8221; or interest/theme camp.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they could still sing &#8220;I&#8217;ve got a daisy on my toe&#8221; and &#8220;Wishy Washy Woman.&#8221;   Just no Taps at this camp!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nettles</title>
		<link>http://kevinbussey.com/2008/05/31/camp-atheist/#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nettles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campfire song: Bob Seger's "Against the Wind" It's slow, the words are easy and repetitious, amorphous meaning, you can scat-sing between phrases</description>
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