Apr 01 2008
students plagiarized honor code
[My SA]
It seemed like an honorable goal: Draft an honor code for University of Texas at San Antonio students to follow, exhorting them not to cheat or plagiarize.But when students threw a draft of the new honor code onto the Internet for feedback, some noticed a problem: Parts of the code appeared to have been lifted word for word from another school’s honor code, without attribution. Even the definition of plagiarism was, well, plagiarized.
Read about it here.
I don’t want to get blamed for plagiarism so “I think” it was Rick Warren who said:
If you take someone else idea once, it is plagiarism, twice, it is research and three times it is genius. :)What do you think?
[footnote] I heard Rick say it in May 2000 at Saddleback Church at the Purpose Driven Church Conference.
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When I served as a youth minister, I learned that there was only one original idea. All the others were stolen.
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Kevin,
I don’t know how to break this to you but if Rick Warren said it without attributing it, then he lifted it from the playwrite, Wilson Mizner (1876-1933). The original quote is: “Copy from one, it’s plagiarism; copy from two, it’s research.”
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Ah, this drives me crazy!!! My students don’t know the difference between plagiarizing and not plagiarizing. They get mad when I subtract points, usually with the argument that “I didn’t mean to” do that. The problem is, I can’t grade based on what anyone meant to do!
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A3,
does this mean I plagiarized the quote?
How funny!
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If plagiarism was not the norm, then most of the churches in America wouldn’t have messages. Seriously, Rick Warren, Andy Stanley, Erwin McManus, Bill Hybels and a few others are the sermon material for a lot of places. There is nothing I hate worse than a talk totally stolen from someone!
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When I heard Rick Warren say that (nearly 20 years ago!!!) I remember a fourth: “Steal four or more and you are being extremely creative.” Even if he borrowed part of it he enriched it enough to call it his own. I honestly cannot remember if he ascribed all or part of the quote to someone else as I have slept since then. I have used it many times since and have always attributed it to Rick.