I read this in our little prayer meeting last night:

2 Chronicles 13:9: Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations of other lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young bullock and seven rams, the same may be a priest of them that are no gods.

There’s the term … a priest of them that are no gods.

Perhaps the real reason for the very low membership in the Unitarian Universalist Association is actually that too many “outsiders” are all too aware of what the Unitarian*Universalist “church” really has to offer. . . Unitarian*Universalists probably have more faith in their highly misleading and, at times, outright false and fraudulent advertising than in God. Unitarian*Universalism aka U*Uism is not really a “melting-pot faith”, unless of course they mean melting everyone down to agnosticism and atheism of course. . . nor does the Unitarian*Universalist “church” welcome all comers. As one might glean from reading between the lines of this article, or even just paying attention to what is said in the concluding parapgraphs. Evidently God believing people in general, and Christians in particular, can find themselves to be rather less than genuinely welcome in some U*U “Welcoming Congregations”. Indeed it is abundantly clear that God is not particularly welcome in some U*U “churches”. . .

This article is bluntly honest about the fact that the UUA’s national marketing campaign is largely motivated by the fact that this recent U*U “evangelism” was brought about by an *age* shift among its membership. . . Unitarian*Universalists aka U*Us, be they atheists, “Christians”, pagans, Buddhists and “Humanists” (usually just another code word for atheists. . .) are growing older. In fact the U*U “church”, according to its own official statistics, is not really growing at all. Total national membership in the Unitarian Universalist Association is about the same now as it was way back in 1961 when the Unitarians and Universalists merged into the UUA. In terms of adult membership it is closer to 150,000 than 250,000 as the article misleadingly states. No doubt UUA officials fudged their own statistics when providing membership levels to the reporter.

http://www.uua.org/documents/finadvisor/000101_uuastats.pdf

In reality Unitarian*Universalism aka U*Uism has steadily lost ground as a percentage of the overall population of the USA since the Unitarian Universalist Assaociation aka UUA was formed in 1961. Obviously the expansion of U*U campus ministries is intended to bring in young blood to shore up U*Uism’s aging, and effectively dwindling. . . demographic.

This map, which shows Unitarian*Universalists as a percentage of all residents of the USA on a county by county basis, lends a whole new meaning to the fact that the Unitarian*Universalist aka U*U “religious community” is well over 95% white. . .

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo200/religion/unitarian.gif

See also - http://emersonavenger.blogspot.com/2008/01/whiting-on-wall-uus-as-percentage-of.html

UUA President Bill Sinkford, and other Unitarian*Universalist U*U “religious leaders”, have to come to understand that Unitarian*Universalism will never grow in membership if it does not get serious about dealing realistically with belief in God. The vast majority of Americans believe in God but many Unitarian*Universalist U*U “churches” avoid using the dreaded ‘G’ word, unless of course a fundamentalist atheist “Humanist” U*U minister is preaching that God is a “non-existent being”, that belief in God is an “illusion” and even “seems primitive”, during a Sunday “church” service. . .

Rev. Ray Drennan of the Unitarian Church of Montreal is on public record as claiming that about one third of ordained U*U clergy are gay. It is all very well to be welcoming to GBLT people but, when U*U “affirmative action” in ordaining GBLT clergy results in one out of three U*U ministers being gay, one has to wonder if GBLT clergy are not perhaps significantly over-represented in the Unitarian*Universalist “church”, and thus possibly hold undue influence in this “Uncommon Denomination”.

Claiming any kind of spiritual or religious experience can and does lead to having one’s mental health called into question and disparaged, even by U*U clergy. . . It can even result in being falsely, abusively, and outright maliciously labeled as a “crazy” “psychotic” “nutcase” etc. by U*Us, again including U*U ministers. The Unitarian*Universalist “religious community” will never experience any significant growth as long as God, and God believing people, are less than genuinely welcome in many if not most U*U “churches”.

Robin,

Thanks for stopping by. Interesting videos.

Robin,

I found your profile interesting as well! Is the experience of your revelation about the solar eclipse something that you would feel comfortable describing? A few others on this blog have been kind enough to share some of the details of their spiritual experiences and I would be interested in hearing yours as well.

Robin,

Thanks for posting the links. Maybe it’s just my setup… I tried the link in Winamp and VLC, both could open the link and both appeared to pley, but I couldn’t get any sound from either player

(yes, the volume was up - i can play other links :)) )

I read the open letter which explains the content of the revelation, about the solar eclipse. I was wondering about the actual experience of the revelation. For example, was the revelation in the form of an idea that occurred to you? Was it a voice that you heard?

Robin,

As you say, the sensations you had, and even your observation of coincidences, sound very much like the experiences that I’ve heard many Christians describe - except perhaps that what you describe seems more vivid. And of course your understanding of your experience is somewhat different than what Christians would understood their experiences to mean. Thanks for the description!

Robin, there is something I’ve learnt about the way we humans work that I want to share with you.

Have you ever had the experience where you are thinking about someone and the phone rings and it’s them that called you? I have. It’s quite amazing - what are the chances that you’d be thinking about them and they would call? Surely something mysterious was happening? I’ve had similar experiences where I’ve dreamt of someone and heard a day or two later that they have died, got pregnant, or had some other important event happen to them.

I used to think that this was proof that there was something more to this world of ours. Something outside of the physical.

The problem with the way I had come to this conclusion was that I was counting the hits and ignoring the misses. There were hundreds of thousands of other times when I was thinking of a person and they didn’t call. If I were to be gentle with myself I could say that I was being, at best, extremely selective. To be blunt though, I was simply deluding myself.

The same thing happens with horoscopes where only a couple of words have to relate to you in order for you to count it as a hit. The same with the Virgin Mary on a tortilla: there must have been millions of tortillas that don’t have any vaguely human-shaped blobs.

That’s the thing; we live in a massively random universe where the possibilities for ‘hits’ are quite high. There are billions of trees with bark that might form a human shape, billions of rock formations that might look like a head, there are thousands of stars visible to the naked eye just crying out to be made into snakes and dogs.

What I’m saying is that you have applied the same selective pattern recognition when it comes to eclipses. If the moon were smaller (or further away - as it is gradually doing so) you might just as easily find some meaning in the fact that it more closely resembles a human eye in that the sun would now forms the iris and the moon the pupil.

Like I mentioned, there are thousands of stars out there and God has had plenty of opportunity to arrange them in such a way that, from our perspective, they form an equally convincing pattern. But he didn’t. And you haven’t counted this as a thousand misses. What about the ‘eye’ on Jupiter? Why isn’t this a hit?

It’s painful to find that what once was imbued with deep meaning is in reality just a coincidence but I’m of the opinion that we’re better off living in the real world than in a fantasy. I’ll understand if you have difficulty accepting this information.

Does this make sense?

OK Robin. All the best.

If you really wish me the best I would suggest that you avoid insinuating that I am not living in the real world but am “living in a fantasy”. . . It is not particulary appreciated. I tried to submit a post that showed up the flaws in your logic, especially with respect to your lack of understanding of solar eclipses but it disappeared into thin cyberspace when I posted it. I have been able to save the text and may try submitting it later. Wordpress does that to me sometimes.

“Total Eclipse” can be rearranged to make “Let’s locate Pi”. “Let’s locate” is clearly another way of saying “Look for” (i.e. to use one’s eyes) and “Pi” is the number used to calculate the circumference, area and volume of circles and spheres. What are the odds of that eh?

I think you are trying to imbue too much meaning into what is, essentially, a coincidence. And the fact that you’ve imbued this much meaning means that you are not open to rational criticism of the beliefs you’ve formed.

Because this is a matter of strong belief it’s likely that you are going to feel strong emotions when I criticise what you hold dear.

Also, the fact that I think you are living in a fantasy world (although I didn’t actually say it) doesn’t stop me from wishing you all the best. Believe me, I feel only good will toward you and, I do, I wish you all the best.

They’re not spurious arguments, they’re analogies of the type of logical error you are making.

As far as your ‘profound revelatory experience’ goes, would you agree that there are people who claim to have had similar experiences that might actually contradict what you believe? If so, do you think they might be faking it or do you think they’ve had a genuine experience but that it might be merely a physical phenomenon that doesn’t actually mean anything? Take a look into Eastern Mysticism - they’ve got a culture rife with these types of experiences. People who use hallucinogenic drugs experience similar effects.

Some recent studies of the brain have also revealed that areas of the brain can be activated to trigger divine experiences which would indicate that much of what we believe to be divine could be entirely down to misfirings of our physical brains. If you’ve ever been diagnosed with any form of mental disorder I would be ultra-cautious in interpreting what appear to be mystic experiences.

You say that you had these experiences three months before you were “ever confronted by the fact that the total solar eclipse distinctly resembles a gigantic ‘eye in the sky’”. Are you saying that you’d never seen a photo of an eclipse before?

My friend, I hate to break it to you but you’re reading way too much into this. Sure, it might be spurring you on to perform good deeds (I quite like the idea of a World Day of Conscience for example) but you can still do these things without the need for reading unnecessary meaning into what is really just plain old coincidence.

Out of interest, why do you not find the hourglass or helix nebulas more compelling than the eclipse? In my opinion they look far more like real eyes than a total eclipse and they have the added benefit of remaining in form continuously. One could say that God had positioned them such that they would only be ‘revealed’ once mankind had developed to a point where they could see them.

Actually your critique makes much more sense than Damian’s contrived arguments. It is true the total solar eclipses often occur in regions where little or no people will see them, but it is equally true that they can and do appear over populated areas and, at times, they recur within relatively short time periods. The next total solar eclipse will appear in the skies over northern China and Mongolia, Siberia and the Arctic regions and thus will not be seen by many people. The 1999 total solar eclipse traversed much of Europe and the 2017 total solar eclipse will folow a path from coast to coast across the USA. In the early 2000’s two total solar eclipses traversed southern Africa on very similar paths of totality within a year of each other.

It is often said that God works in mysterious ways and I cannot answer for God. I only know what was made clear to me via my revelatory experience(s). It is not just a “coincidence” that the sun and moon have virtually identical apparent sizes, nor is it a “coincidence” that when our moon totally eclipses our sun it creates a visual phenomenon that distinctly resembles an eye. It was made very clear to me that this total solar eclipse “Eye of God” is intended by God to symbolically represent God’s divine omniscience. Beyond that you will have to address your questions to God.

I do find this Biblical passage to be quite interesting in light of how the total solar eclipse “Eye of God” puts in appearances in different parts of the world -

“For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.”

http://bible.cc/2_chronicles/16-9.htm

I have done a lot of research into how total solar eclipses, and other forms of eclipses influenced ancient humanity’s religious beliefs and practices. In many ways the total solar eclipse serves a consciousness raising function similar to the black monolith in 2001 A Space Odyssey. It really is quite fascinating from a purely scientific perspective in terms of anthropology, archaeology and religious history.

I am sorry Damian but your highly contrived arguments are quite spurious. They are very poor analogies of the type of perfectly rational logic that I am engaging in.

:As far as your ‘profound revelatory experience’ goes, would you agree that there are people who claim to have had similar experiences that might actually contradict what you believe?

I agree that that is possible but those people would be mistaken. It is highly illogical to believe in an omnsicient Creator of the Universe, one who created the Earth and sun and moon ( not necessarily in that order ) and determined their respective sizes and distances from each other, but who did not intend the total solar eclipse to distinctly resembloe an eye. Such a God would be a bit of a dolt, and I do not consider God to be a dolt.

:If so, do you think they might be faking it or do you think they’ve had a genuine experience but that it might be merely a physical phenomenon that doesn’t actually mean anything?

You are presenting a hypothetical situation here so I see reason why I should speculate about what hypothetical people might hypothetically do. I prefer to deal with reality than fantasy. . . I do not doubt that some people fake religious experiences, or at least fraudulently claim to have undergone religious experiences, for various reasons. What counts here is whether or not I am faking it or fraudulent. If I am neither faking it nor fraudulent then maybe, just maybe, you and other people might do well to pay heed to what I am saying here. I might add that that principle applies as much to what I am saying about Unitarian*Universalists and their misleading advertising campaign that this thread was originally devoted to as anything else I am claiming. There are only three possibilities, I am telling the truth, I am “faking it” aka lying, or I genuinely believe what I am saying but I am delusional aka “living in a fantasy world”. . . I can assure you that I am not “faking it” and I have no reason to believe that I am “living in a fantasy world.”

:Take a look into Eastern Mysticism - they’ve got a culture rife with these types of experiences. People who use hallucinogenic drugs experience similar effects.

The last time I checked hallucinogenic drugs have no effect on the sun and moon, and the fact that the totally eclipsed sun distinctly resembles the pupil and iris of an eye. . .

:Some recent studies of the brain have also revealed that areas of the brain can be activated to trigger divine experiences which would indicate that much of what we believe to be divine could be entirely down to misfirings of our physical brains.

Not necessarily. One thing that my experiences have taught me is that the natural world, and what some term the “supernatural” or the “divine”, are very closely connected and inter-related. Misfirings of the brain cannot and do not account for much of what I experienced. Misfirings of the brain most certainly do not cause very real meaningful “coincidences” to take place and I experienced some very interesting meaningful “coincidences” that were undeniable real life events.

:If you’ve ever been diagnosed with any form of mental disorder I would be ultra-cautious in interpreting what appear to be mystic experiences.

Well I haven’t been diagnosed with any form of mental disorder beyond a low-level situational depression that was diagnosed years after my revelatory religious experience. In fact, as a direct result of having an intoletant and abusive fundamentalist atheist U*U minister “diagnose” my revelatory religious experience as “your psychotic experience”. I was thoroughly examined by a competent psychiatrist who could find no traces of psychoses in me and wrote two letters to that effect addressed to Montreal Unitarians. Not that that has dissuaded some of them from contuinuing to abusively label me as a “crazy” “psychotic” “nutcase”. . .

:You say that you had these experiences three months before you were “ever confronted by the fact that the total solar eclipse distinctly resembles a gigantic ‘eye in the sky’”. Are you saying that you’d never seen a photo of an eclipse before?

No. But I had certainly not seen one that was as good as that of Serge Koutchmy’s photo of the 1991 total solar eclipse as published in the May 1992 edition of National Geographic magazine.

:My friend, I hate to break it to you but you’re reading way too much into this. Sure, it might be spurring you on to perform good deeds (I quite like the idea of a World Day of Conscience for example) but you can still do these things without the need for reading unnecessary meaning into what is really just plain old coincidence.

I have undergone a revelatory experience of God that is at least comparable to those claimed by well-known mystics, saints, and even some Biblical prophets. I am not reading too much into this at all. If anything I am being quite restrained and conservative in terms of what I am claiming as revelation. I am being very careful not to overstep the bounds of what I consider to be absolutely reliable. In fact I tend to understate things more often than not, as the radio interview should demonstrate.

I agree however that one does not need to believe in God in order to observe World Day of Conscience. All one needs to do is agree that the totally eclipsed sun does in fact look a lot like an eye staring down from the sky and that a global examination of conscience at all levels is an aoppropriate way for human beings to respond to this cosmic symbolism.

:Out of interest, why do you not find the hourglass or helix nebulas more compelling than the eclipse?

Mainly because they are only visible with powerful telescopes and thus had zero influence on ancient humanity’s religious beliefs and practices.

:In my opinion they look far more like real eyes than a total eclipse and they have the added benefit of remaining in form continuously. One could say that God had positioned them such that they would only be ‘revealed’ once mankind had developed to a point where they could see them.

Well a major problem with that proposition is that one can much better argue that God positioned the sun and the moon so that the total solar eclipse “Eye of God” would be “revealed” to human beings thousands of years ago, and would have a profound influence on ancient humanity’s religious beliefs and practices going back at least four thousand years. The rock solid evidence for that fact is there to be seen by all those who have eyes to see. . . The total solar eclipse “Eye of God” has put in repeated appearances above our planet for as long as human beings have existed, and it is not going to disappear any time soon barring the sun going nova or something.

:Robin, it may make you feel better to label my arguments as ‘contrived’ but if you look at them carefully you’ll see that I’ve demonstrated other beliefs that are analogous to yours as well as having directly addressed the phenomenon of mystical experiences and of your claim that you’d never been confronted by the resemblance of an eclipse to an eye.

Actually you are misinterpreting or misrepresenting much of what I have said here Damian. I do not refer to your arguments as contrived because it makes me “feel better” I do so because they obviously are highly contrived.

:I’ve also raised the question of why you’ve chosen the eclipse over various nebula which look more like a human eye than an eclipse.

And I was answering that question as you were writing this.

:A3 came up with an excellent piece of information that clearly points away from there being any divine reason for eclipses (especially if they are supposed to be directed at humankind) by the fact that they are more often than not only viewed in the middle of the ocean.

A3s excellent piece of information does not in fact diminish any divine reason for eclipses.

:Your only answer to this is that “God works in mysterious ways”. Come on. Get real.

That was not my only answer. You are being untruthful here. I clearly said -

It is true the total solar eclipses often occur in regions where little or no people will see them, but it is equally true that they can and do appear over populated areas and, at times, they recur within relatively short time periods.

In any case I am being quite “real” when I say that “God works in mysterious ways” as most believers will agree.

:As to the historical observation that humans attributed great spiritual significance to eclipses - of course they did! They also thought that lightening, floods, earthquakes and disease were signs from God. This is interesting in that it gives us an insight as to how the human mind likes to attribute meaning and purpose to otherwise random events. Beyond that it doesn’t lend any credibility to the actual beliefs themselves. All you are doing is demonstrating that not all humans have moved on.

Total solar eclipses are not “random events”. Just ask any astronomer. I am specifically referring to the fact that ancient human beings quite evidently saw the total solar eclipse “Eye of God”, as well as some other cosmic religious symbolism that is manifested during total solar eclipses, and responded to the symbolism embodied in eclipses in their religious beliefs and practices. I guess American astronomer Jack Zirker hasn’t moved on because he refered to the total solar eclipse as the “Eye of God” in the early 1980’s. . .

:I really don’t know what logic I can use to convince you otherwise.

Almost certainly none, but the seriouisly flawed “logic” of most of your highly contrived arguments will get you absolutely nowhere with me or other people.

:I fear you are beyond reason and can only hope that you limit your windmill-tilting to peaceful protests outside churches.

I am by no means “beyond reason”. It is as a result of considerable application of reason to what I have actually experienced that I came to the conclusions that I have come to. Unlike some people who have undergone revelatory religious experiences of various kinds I have very rationally and very methodically analysed what I have actually experienced and the messages that came through that experience.

It might interest you to know that one of the messages that came through my revelatory experiences of 1992 was that the serious environmental damage that human beings are causing to this planet, in particular to the atmosphere, can, and quite possibly will, lead to major wars, possibly even nuclear warfare. It is only now that some people in positions of influence are finally coming to that same realization. I tried to share this information with religious leaders in 1992 but I was generally ignored and/or patronizingly dismissed. My experiences gave me the distinct impression that the Creator is not very happy about the way human beings are destroying the Creation. That was one of the prime motivations behind Creation Day which intolerant fundamentalist atheist Unitarians falsely and maliciously labeled as a “cult”. As far as my peaceful protests outside of a particularly hypocritical Unitarian “church” goes, I usually refer to it as tilting at windbags. . .

Obviously I meant to say - I have briefly looked at the partial phases of solar eclipse with the unprotected naked eye

Actually AAA I have no problem at all with your questions so far. You are have been scrupulously civil and genuinely open-minded. You seem to be the kind of atheist that I could have as a best friend.

:Are you in contact with others that have had similar revelations (about the “Eye of God” specifically vs. other matters) or do you think that this sort of thing is rare?

I expect that my own experience is indeed quite rare. I am not aware of any other human being on this planet who is claiming a similar experience and a similar revelation about religious symbolism embodied in total solar eclipses. It does seem however that a may well have some ancient predecessors.

:(Note - I’m not leading you to disclose any info about others - I’m just curious about the phenomenon itself and how common it is) Or maybe I should ask, if it is not common, what is the frequency with which it occurs (or at least the frequency with which the occurrence is reported)?

I really can’t say. At present my own revelatory religious experience and the specific claims arising from it would appear to be about one in six billion. . . I do believe however that a reasonable number of other people have had similar initial mystical experiences and very unusual and highly meaningful incidences of synchronicity.

:Have you traded notes with others who have mystic experiences like meditating Christian monks, Zen Buddhists, and Sikhs for example? If so, what are the similarities? Differences?

No I have not done so so I cannot relate the similarities and differences.

:You mentioned that you saw a psychologist that gave you a clean bill of health, and I take you at your word - so what I’m about to ask is not in any way a challenge to that, it’s just a probe for the sake of comparison (as were the questions above): have you ever heard of people who have had temporal-lobe seizures describe their experiences?

No I have not. I can say however that there was nothing remotely resembling any kind of seizure in my revelatory religious experience. In fact, to the best of my knowledge and recollection, I have never suffered any kind of seizure. Other than the highly questionable seizure of my picket signs by some overzealous Montreal police officers of course.

:If so, how would you compare (or contrast) your experiences with those? Just to reiterate, I’m not suggesting at all by my question that your experiences were by any means caused by TLS, and even if you say they were similar, I’ll still take you at your word that your psychologist found nothing wrong with you.

Actually it was a psychiatrist who examined me specifically in terms of the allegation that my revelatory religious experience was a “psychotic experience”. The two examinations took place in late 1995 and early 1996 and there was a follow-up examination about a year later. Prior to that I did see a few psychiatrists regarding my religious experience and they did not find any evidence of any mental illness either. I have also had a fair bit of informal contact with psychologists, psychiatrists and the occasional psychotherapist and none have suggested that I am suffering from any mental illness. I once asked a Jungian psychotherapist who I had had some limited social interaction with if she thought I was psychotic and she replied, “You are not psychotic but you are a sh*t-disturber.” I took that diagnosis as a compliment. Another psychiatrist interested in religious experience, with whom I had had several meetings, had previously said that I was “litigious”, but he never at any time suggested that I might be suffering from a mental illness.

:Sorry if my questions are getting too personal - but personal experience is, well, personal. I’m only asking because I’m intrigued and because you seem willing enough to explain. So please feel free to ignore anything too personal or to just tell me if there is something that you would prefer not to discuss and I’ll drop it.

So far, so good AAA. The day your questions get too personal for me I will politely let you know. You seem to be genuinely curious about my experience and I am quite happy to answer your legitimate questions. It might interest you to know that I once asked CSICOP to investigate my claimed revelation of God but they begged off. They actually had the gall to respond to my request by claiming that they did not actually investigate claims of the paranormal themselves and referred me to James Randi. . . So much for the meaning of their acronym.

:Thanks for the kind words!!

You’re welcome.

:Here’s a brief video I have on my site about TLS, so you’ll have an idea what I was referring to when I asked that question:

http://www.askanatheist.org/articles/temporallobeseizure.html

It might have been an idea to provide that URL eralier so I could have watched the video before responding. I will have a look at it later as I am still tired at the moment.

:You mentioned that the point of revelation was to communicate that God is ever watching (ever present).

That was certainly a major part of it and also probably the most reliable part of it in that it corresponds with one of the most fundamental monotheistic beliefs about God and the fact that the totally eclipsed sun certainly does look very much like an eye. I should say however that the idea that God “watching” us is somewhat misleading, as is symbolism of the total solar eclipse “Eye of God”. It was made very clear to me via the phenomenon of synchronicity that God is fully aware of what is happening in the world. God is not just watching us but also listening and even is aware of our thoughts. This again is entirely consistent with a proper understanding of God’s attribute of divine omniscience.

:Is there more to it or is that it?

There is indeed more to it. but that is the core part of it and the most thoroughly reliable element of it. As I said earlier, I am trying to be very careful not to stray from what is actually reliable revelation into any grey area that may not be entirely reliable. There definitely was a strong emphasis on the environmental damage that we are doing to the Earth, particularly the atmosphere. and a warning that such environmental damage could ultimately lead to major wars.

:Do you have any thoughts about why you (and why only you) were choses to receive the revelation?

I honestly have no idea.

:Is the point of the revelation just to impart this knowledge or is there also a demand on humanity to behave a certain way or to do a certain thing?

No specific behaviours were demanded but, as I indicated, there was what I understood to be a warning of serious negative consequences if we continue to cause serious environmental damage to the Earth.

:Whatever your answer, is this a brand new message or do you see the same message appearing in other religions?

Well the message that God is omniscient, and is thus aware of all human thoughts, words, and actions, already exists in all of the major monotheistic religions. I was actually surprised that none of them seemed aware of the “Eye of God” symbolism of the total solar eclipse and that it played no major role in their religious beliefs. I well remember thinking, “Why didn’t Jesus tell us this 2000 years ago?” soon after being made aware of the TSE “Eye of God”. I was even more surprised at this lack of knowledge on the part of the monotheitic religions when, after some research, it became obvious to me that various ancient “pagan” religions were quite aware of the “Eye of God” symbolism of the total solar eclipse as well as other aspects of total solar eclipse symbolism such as the “winged sun”. It is true that the Bible includes many references to the “Eye of God” but they are never linked to the total solar eclipse.

So no, the revelation about the total solar eclipse “Eye of God” symbolizing God’s divine omniscience is is by no means “a brand new message”. In fact my extensive research made it clear that it is a very old message being retransmitted and reemphasized. I am obviously reinterpretting it from a modern perspective as well. Some of the ancient religions took it a bit too literally. The total solar eclipse “Eye of God” is purely symbolic. I guess that the only new element of the messages that came through my revelatory experiences is that it was made clear to me that our Creator is not pleased with the serious damage that we are doing to the Creation, and I would include the harm that human beings are doing to each other in that, and the associated warnings of serious negative consequences if we continue down that path.

You are absolutely correct in observing that the effort to get people to hear me out, let along convincing them that the revelation is truly divine, is a constant uphill battle. In some ways receiving this revelation has most certainly made life difficult for me. This was certainly especially true of the first few years following the initial revelatory experience when there was huge pressure on me to get the message(s) out. I was repeatedly ignored or patronizingly dismissed by clergy of various faiths and denominations. Even the few that were quite receptive did little or nothing to provide any practical help to share the message(s). Then of course there was the outright intolerant and abusive response of the fundamentalist atheist leaders of the so-called Unitarian Church of Montreal which has made life difficult for me.

I have made, and continue to make, serious personal sacrifices in order to try to get the message(s) out. That being said however, I have tried to live as normal a life as I can under these very unusual circumstances, and I don’t think that I am doing all that badly in that regard, although some things certainly could be better than they are. I believe that my proposal for an observation of a World Day of Conscience whenever the total solar eclipse “Eye of God” appears in the skies above our planet is a good way to share the basic message(s) with as many people as possible. One does not even have to believe in God, or that the TSE “Eye of God” actually symbolizes God’s omniscience, to obswerve World Day of Conscience. One need only agree that the TSE does look quite a lot like an eye staring down from the sky and that it is quite appropriate to respond to this profound cosmic metaphor or symbolism with an examination of conscience on a global scale. I think that doing so would pretty much cover all the bases.

I’ve enjoyed the conversation too, Robin. You have made some intriguing claims and I appreciate the time you spent explaining them and your willingness to answer personal questions about them. I also found your candor quite refreshing. I hope you drop by again soon. Best of luck.